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- From: oahvenla@hyppynaru.cs.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
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- Subject: Re: Netscape is crap (Was: Announce: AWeb 1.0 released!)
- Date: 04 Apr 1996 22:14:48 +0300
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- In-reply-to: innuendo@execpc.com's message of 4 Apr 1996 01:05:53 GMT
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- In article <4jv79h$k7s@daily-planet.execpc.com> innuendo@execpc.com (Jonathan Gapen) writes:
- > That secure HTTP feature you like is just a joke. With that annoying
- >requester that pops up to tell you that you're entering or leaving a "secure"
- >area, I'm of the opinion that it's more a marketing ploy than an actual
- >attempt at secure transactions. ("Buy Netscape, it gives you the illusion of
- >security.") They use an inadequate number of bits, and key selection is not
- >at all random. It was broken once, fairly quickly. Who's to say it doesn't
- >have more flaws?
-
- In fairness to Netscape, this you've got totally wrong. SSL may be the
- only thing Netscape did well. That you pops up the "annoying
- requester" only means that you have not even read it once, or you'd
- know that it is really trivial to turn them off for good. And that it
- was broken is not Netscape's fault. The full blown version, available
- in the US version of Netscape Navigator, and through SSL
- implementations made outside US are secure. The problem is that
- Netscape is not allowed to export strong cryptography from the US, so
- the international 40 bit encryption is a joke. Blame the lawmakers for
- that.
-
- > Oh yeah, and all those security features in their Java implementation,
- >which allow malicious programmers to do nasty things to your system. Well,
- >they did fix that one, but doesn't that say something about their programming
- >teams? Aside from that, Java is pretty cool. In fact, it's the only reason I
- >ever use Netscape anymore. I'll only put up with a heap of dung if there's a
- >diamond hidden in it.
-
- Note that Netscape Navigator 2.01 still has security problems in
- relation to Java. I don't know if Atlas (3.0) fixes them, but more are
- likely to turn up, anyway. If you're security conscious, you turn off
- both Java and JavaScript.
-
- Java is really big and complicated, and Netscape didn't even make most
- of it. Bugs in Java are likely to be bugs in the Sun's reference
- implementation of it. Bugs in JavaScript, on the other hand, are
- Netscape's fault. JavaScript as a concept is totally fucked,
- incidentally, because embedding JavaScript in SGML comments is not
- possible. Just take a look at any non-trivial JavaScript containing
- page through an SGML parser. AWeb shows it well too, since AWeb parses
- SGML syntax pretty good. Netscape has never been known for good
- SGML parsing.
-
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